What if one overlooked molecule was quietly influencing your energy, metabolism, hormones, and long-term health? That molecule is Deuterium—the “heavy hydrogen” isotope that has become one of the most important and misunderstood factors in modern wellness. In our newest episode of the Quantum Healthy Podcast, we interviewed Dr. Sara Pugh, PhD to break it all down with clarity, humour, and her signature “de-woo-ifying” style. (Woo meaning the unexplainable psudoscience that Quantum Physics is now being able to explain.) What a treat it was to talk to Sara. We went down a few rabbit holes in this episode and we hope you enjoy it as much as we did!
It is challenging to describe Dr. Sara Pugh in a few words but on paper she is a biochemist, molecular researcher, Pilates instructor, quantum biology educator, and the creator of the Quantum Based You Tube Channel and the Busy Super Human podcast. With a degree in Biochemistry & Genetics and a PhD in Molecular Mechanisms, she has spent years studying protein folding, antioxidants, fluorescence, cholesterol metabolism, and heart muscle physiology. But her journey didn’t end in the lab. Her own experiences with pain, metabolic challenges, functional neurology, fasting, ketogenic nutrition, and biophysics led her eventually deep into the world of quantum biology.
Today, Sara is known for her ability to connect molecular science with biophysics, light, water, magnetism, and consciousness—while translating it all into practical steps anyone can use. She truly does live up to her name as a Busy Super Human!
Why Deuterium Matters More Than You Think
Deuterium (D) is a naturally occurring heavier isotope of hydrogen. Its heavier than Protium and lighter than the radioactive form of Hydrogen called Tritium. You’re supposed to have a little D… but modern life has pushed our levels far beyond what the human body evolved to handle.
Sara explains it simply: “Hydrogen is the universal molecule. When you double its mass, everything changes.”
Too much deuterium stalls mitochondrial nanomotors, increases oxidative stress, disrupts cellular signaling, damages redox balance, and contributes to everything from metabolic dysfunction to hormonal imbalance. According to Sara, this is one of the underlying mechanisms behind:
- chronic fatigue
- leptin resistance
- early aging
- fertility issues
- autoimmune conditions
- metabolic diseases
I loved this clarifying analogy she gave us: “High deuterium in the mitochondria is like putting an electric guitar into a symphony orchestra—chaos.”
What is Deutenomics?
Deutenomics is a new research field in biology that is gaining momentum in recent times, and it is giving us new insight into metabolic pathologies. It explores how hydrogen moves through water and other intermediates inside our body. Essentially, humans are electric beings of water fueled by light. Deutenomics seeks to uncover the biochemical, physiological, and quantum physics of these processes.
“Deutenomics is based on the foundational concept that when a deuteron is part of a molecule, it changes its properties. Deuterium largely enters our bodies through the food we eat and the water we drink…The accumulation of deuterium in the body is an important disease-causing factor and deuterium regulation may well be the most important preventive and therapeutic medical intervention.” – Dr. Petra Davelaar
Deutenomics and Cancer
I first heard about the link between higher deuterium in our mitochondria and cancer (oncogenesis) from Gabor Somylai and Lazlo Boros’s interviews and these two books of Gabor’s:
His ideas inspired much of my cancer workshop.
I was pleased to find this recent study researching this interview with Dr Sara Pugh:
I found these statements in the conclusion of this recent study above helpful to understand Deutonomics further and what Dr Sara Pugh is fundamentally explaining in this podcast:
“Theoretical studies suggest that the mitochondrial ATPase pumps are very sensitive to deuterium, which accumulates in the motor and causes stutters, leading to an increase in reactive oxygen species and inefficiencies in ATP production. The gut microbiome likely plays a significant role in supplying deupleted nutrients to the host, via hydrogen recycling.
Oncogenesis may be driven by deuterium overload in mitochondria, and the unusual metabolic policies of cancer cells can be explained as a strategy of their cancer pathogenesis to hoard deuterium and supply deupleted nutrients, mainly lactate, to the resident immune cells as well as to distant organs. Lactate and a low pH in the tumor microenvironment signal to the immune cells to suppress immune activation and promote tumor survival. Much more research is needed to further clarify the roles that deuterium plays in health and disease.”
My Takeaway – To survive and thrive in today’s world where chronic disease and even cancer are growing, you realize that you have to learn some basic biochemistry, biology, quantum biology and now Deutonomics to make the best choices – there is no getting around it. Its like realizing you have to learn how your cell phone works – just to get by today.
How Modern Life Raises Deuterium Levels
Sara reveals how today’s environment is stacked against us:
- Blue light and nnEMFs distort the way water and hydrogen behave inside cells
- Glyphosate disrupts NAD+ and raises our deuterium burden
- Seed oils and hydrogenated oils contain deuterium-heavy hydrogen
- Processed foods carry “frozen light”, distorted quantum information (and are high in deuterium)
- Supplements often contain contaminants and heavy isotopes (and are high in deuterium)
- Overeating floods mitochondria with deuterium-laden substrates
She explains how the process of glycolysis in our cells (changing glucose to energy) naturally strips deuterium—but fat oxidation in the mitochondria does not. This is one reason ketosis and fasting are deeply therapeutic: they help the body “wash itself from the inside” because a ketogenic diet is naturally deuterium-depleting
How to Lower Deuterium Naturally
One of the most empowering parts of the episode is Sara’s practical guidance on decreasing deuterium without dogma. She covers:
- Keto or epi-paleo eating to reduce deuterium load
- Sunlight exposure to build structured water and improve hydrogen handling
- Sauna to sequester and sweat out heavy hydrogen (deuterium)
- Fasting or OMAD (One Meal a Day) to reduce mitochondrial overload
- Avoiding glyphosate to protect NAD+ and natural depletion pathways
- DDW (Deuterium Depleted Water) for those who need deeper therapeutic support (e.g. cancer patients)
What would be an optimal Deuterium level to avoid disease? Sara explains that humans thrive closer to 120–130 ppm, far below today’s typical readings. She also detailed how to test your deuterium level.
As she says – “The body has elegant systems for removing Deuterium — if we stop overwhelming them.”
What it Means to Be Quantum Healthy
We ended the episode as usual by asking Sara our signature question. Her answer was beautiful and went something like this:
“Quantum Healthy means reconnecting with nature, expanding your coherence, and remembering that you are your own saviour—if you’re willing to step outside and live in alignment.”
She also explained:
• “Light must be controlled in the body. When it isn’t, everything becomes energetically expensive.”
• “We are fundamentally made of waves. Biology is physics wearing a biochemical costume.
Listen to the Full Conversation
If you’ve ever wanted to understand the hidden physics behind chronic disease, metabolism, and human energy, this episode will light up your mind. Listen now to our full interview with Dr. Sara Pugh, PhD.
Keep reading for the Timestamps….
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Mitochondria, Deuterium, and Debunking the Woo with Dr. Sara Pugh
Dr. Sara Pugh has a degree in Biochemistry Genetics and PhD in Molecular Mechanisms. She studied protein folding, which plays a role in Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s disease, antioxidants and fluorescence. She worked as a postdoctoral researcher on heart muscle cells, cholesterol and statins. She has had her work on the above subjects published in various peer-reviewed journals.
She helps people improve their metabolic mental and physical health using; psychiatric nutrition, ketogenic diets, fasting, hypnosis, targeted supplementation and Pilates. She has a successful membership group (which I have been proudly part of for a couple years to see inside her quantum supercomputer brain). She also has a podcast Quantum Based which is one of my favourites, a Substack, and YouTube channel Busy Super Human.
Find Dr. Sara:
- Website: https://busysuperhuman.com/
- Contact Sara: https://busysuperhuman.com/contact-me/
- Instagram: / busy_superhuman
- YouTube: / @thebusysuperhuman
- Podcast: https://sarapugh.podbean.com/?fbclid=…
- Substack: https://drsarapugh.substack.com/?fbcl…
Timestamps:
00:00 – Intro
01:18 – Sara’s Journey to Quantum Biology
12:28 – Understanding Deuterium
14:55 – Deuterium Explained
25:50 – Deuterium’s Role in Addiction
28:10 – Deuterium in Medications
36:20 – Testing for Deuterium Levels
41:20 – Optimal Deuterium Levels for Health
43:19 – How to Find Dr. Sara
49:13 – Signature Question
56:40 – Quantum Biology’s Impact on Addiction
57:53 – Outro
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Disclaimer: The information shared in this post and interview is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Always consult with a qualified healthcare professional for specific medical guidance and treatment.
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